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not_your_vase 16 hours ago [-]
The article seems to be more about Oracle being forced to cough up $7B as collateral for one of their new shiny (future-) data centers - even though apparently they tried to make this requirement go away, but the regulators weren't touched by their crocodile tears.
arm32 14 hours ago [-]
I'm shocked regulators didn't budge. Good.
jamesfinlayson 10 hours ago [-]
I'm in Australia and in my experience gambling regulators don't budge. Other ones might not be as strong.
jmalicki 7 hours ago [-]
This is the US. You can just throw a UFC party or something for Trump then you're good.
abrookewood 6 hours ago [-]
God I wish you were joking ...
lovich 8 hours ago [-]
I am also shocked. As a second tier citizen for being merely a human instead of a corporation I am used to having to put up collateral to get big loan deals.
I am amazed that our betters are being held to the same standards. Maybe they forgot to pay a few million in lobbying to get the preferred treatment plan.
ryandrake 11 hours ago [-]
There must be something else going on. It's 2026. How in the world could a local government in the USA just... fail to let a corporation break the rules and do anything it wants? It defies belief.
mawadev 13 hours ago [-]
You kinda think senior management knows what goes on, but if you ever got in touch with senior management, you just know they have no idea and go off of vibes, as soon as the vibe shifts around them, its time to socialize the consequences... downwards
etempleton 7 hours ago [-]
There are maybe 1 in 10 that really truly know what they are doing.
PearlRiver 11 hours ago [-]
To be fair some of those CEOs will have trouble finding golf buddies for a few months.
fsuts 4 hours ago [-]
>According to the annual report of the computing giant published this week, the company had 141,000 employees as of May 31, 2026. This is a significant downsizing compared to the corresponding period last year, when the number of employees at Oracle stood at approximately 162,000 people. The report further reveals that the company paid a massive fortune of $1.84 billion for severance pay and other retirement expenses accompanying the restructuring moves in the current fiscal year.
Workforce remains huge at 141k so perhaps a non story and just normal big company rounds of redundancies that were the case pre-ai
chrisandchris 26 minutes ago [-]
Didn't know they had 20k developers. I thought Oracle is just lawyers. Or did they replace lawyers with AI?
/s
NotMichaelBay 14 hours ago [-]
> By the end of fiscal year 2026, the company's workforce was slashed by about 21,000 employees – a decline of roughly 13% – from 162,000 to 141,000 workers.
Is this article from the future?
> Story by WALLA! MONEY
Who?
toast0 14 hours ago [-]
Oracle's fiscal year is June through May. And they enumerate their years so that the year number matches the calendar year when the year closes in May.
I'd guess their fiscal year is trying to align with fiscal years of schools and governments, which are major customers and often have budget cycles aligned july-june or similar.
wraptile 4 hours ago [-]
It feels like the end is near for Oracle, and good riddance?
I'm not an American, so I'm not familiar with Oracle's database tech but looking through history of what good/bad Oracle has done for the world:
- good: btrfs for linux
- good: mysql (inherited)
- good: openjdk (inherited)
- good: virtualbox
- bad: oracle v google (copyrighting APIs)
- bad: mass surveillance (i.e. BlueKai)
- bad: aggressive value extraction
- bad: general mega corporation bullying
Sad that 21,000 people lost their jobs, but I don't think many people are shedding tears for Oracle itself.
martheen 4 hours ago [-]
Virtualbox is inherited too, originally by Innotek, then they got bought by Sun, and later Sun bought by Oracle. Oracle also let OpenOffice languish, restricted Solaris, restricted the Java framework (it was already open sourced by Sun before their acquisition, we got tons of OpenJDK build precisely because of Oracle hobbling Java licensing) and sit on the Java language development long enough that JetBrains comes up with Kotlin (is that "good"? Probably bad, just like if someone let a good restaurant crumble and others got fed up and start their own)
Cider9986 3 hours ago [-]
I don't understand why Oracle is hated more on HN than other large companies.
I saw that whole "don't anthropomorphize Oracle" but I suppose it's hard to understand if you weren't there.
trentor 1 hours ago [-]
Killing sun was unforgivable for most old timers like me.
1 hours ago [-]
tonyedgecombe 2 hours ago [-]
Apple gets a lot of hate here (mostly unjustified in my opinion).
sinuhe69 6 hours ago [-]
Best part:
“Oracle petitioned the court against the requirement, arguing that these financing costs would deter future investment in the state, while emphasizing its commitment to the project, […]. Regulators, on the other hand, remained firm in their stance, clarifying that existing customers should not subsidize data centers. This issue is not limited to Wisconsin: At least 24 US states have already approved special rates, minimum conditions, exit penalties, and collateral requirements for heavy electricity consumers.
BikiniPrince 6 hours ago [-]
They just deleted some TPM positions.
mgdev 9 hours ago [-]
Never bet against Clay.
DonHopkins 13 hours ago [-]
I love the smell of freshly mown grass in the morning!
When I joined the grass cutting lawnmower party, I didn't think it would mow my lawn!
ChrisArchitect 14 hours ago [-]
[dupe]
Recent related:
Oracle could face $7B collateral bill for Wisconsin data centre
I am amazed that our betters are being held to the same standards. Maybe they forgot to pay a few million in lobbying to get the preferred treatment plan.
/s
Is this article from the future?
> Story by WALLA! MONEY
Who?
I'd guess their fiscal year is trying to align with fiscal years of schools and governments, which are major customers and often have budget cycles aligned july-june or similar.
I'm not an American, so I'm not familiar with Oracle's database tech but looking through history of what good/bad Oracle has done for the world:
- good: btrfs for linux
- good: mysql (inherited)
- good: openjdk (inherited)
- good: virtualbox
- bad: oracle v google (copyrighting APIs)
- bad: mass surveillance (i.e. BlueKai)
- bad: aggressive value extraction
- bad: general mega corporation bullying
Sad that 21,000 people lost their jobs, but I don't think many people are shedding tears for Oracle itself.
I saw that whole "don't anthropomorphize Oracle" but I suppose it's hard to understand if you weren't there.
“Oracle petitioned the court against the requirement, arguing that these financing costs would deter future investment in the state, while emphasizing its commitment to the project, […]. Regulators, on the other hand, remained firm in their stance, clarifying that existing customers should not subsidize data centers. This issue is not limited to Wisconsin: At least 24 US states have already approved special rates, minimum conditions, exit penalties, and collateral requirements for heavy electricity consumers.
When I joined the grass cutting lawnmower party, I didn't think it would mow my lawn!
Recent related:
Oracle could face $7B collateral bill for Wisconsin data centre
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48993488
S&P Global has lowered Oracle’s creditworthiness from BBB to BBB-
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48909768
And 3 months ago:
Oracle slashes 30k jobs
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47587935